When the starter rope is pulled and released, the rewind spring recoils the starter rope onto the rewind pulley. 11-02-2008, 02:28 PM #3. bstillw. You nailed it buddy! Inspect the spark plug for signs of wear or damage. Bought but did not use Seafoam. ... so, so hard' 10 former Pentagon chiefs issue warning to Trump. It would seem that the old Castrol 2 Stroke oil was the culprit. Email. See if anything comes out of it. To determine if the spark plug is defective, use a spark plug tester. Enter model number to search for the required part specific to your product, Browse our parts categories to select from a variety of parts for your product. I will clean/scrape/vaccuum exhaust port and check diaphragms more closely, and if I can find adjustment screws for jets, I will try them as well. You should see a strong spark between the tester’s terminals when the engine is cranking. Page 20: Starting Warm Engine Move stop switch (A) to STOP position. Many rewind springs can be replaced individually, but it may be easier to replace the whole rewind pulley and spring assembly. Check the screws holding the carb. Echo trimmer dies after heats up. I have an echo trimmer (not sure what model) that has been abused every year for about 20 years. I recently replaced fuel line and filter (Echo 90097 kit) and still, no better. Makes perfect sense. The hotter it gets, the smaller the wisps. There is a hidden fuel mixture screw right below the primer bulb that usually needs loosened and that almost always fixes the bog down problem with those particular weed eaters…, This fixed my issue on a pas 225 that had light use last season was put up without fuel in it each time nothing wrong with the carb nothing blocking the screen on the exhaust, 04/09/2020 by This can occur with a dirty fuel filter on the end of your main hose. If engine does not stop when stop switch is moved to STOP position, close choke - COLD START position - to stall engine. I bought new gas and mixed in some Seafoam gas treatment. As a result, the engine won't start. With ECHO trimmers, you'll spend less time creating a lasting impression and more time enjoying it. If I removed the gas filter and blew and sucked on the line first, I would not have to go through disassemling the muffler and carburetor. I failed to mention that I had previously pulled the carburetor apart, but it looked quite clean and in order (i did not replace diaphragms though). If it starts now it revs up and down on ch … read more Inside the main metal part of the carb you'll see a number of tiny holes on the sides, make sure all of them are unclogged (liquid should come out of them when you spray into a corresponding hole in the carb). Start by removing the screws that hold the air filter in place, usually near the rear of the engine. We must assume the fuel/oil mix is correct. I love detailed answers. Finally I put the intake hose in my mouth and blew and sucked on it. I will definitely do what you have detailed, including the removal and cleaning of the hidden jet. Replace your fuel filter and hoses on a regular basis, usually once a season. It could be one of these common issues: 1. Cleaned exhaust port. Inspect the spark plug for signs of wear or damage. I will be back on to let you know how things are progressing and mention the solution. Close. Regular 2-cycle oil should show small wisps of smoke as you pull the trigger. Slide the choke switch up to the "cold start" or the choke closed position. Repair guides and support for weed whackers, also known as string trimmers, weed eaters, edge trimmers or line trimmers. 3rd is carburetor out of adjustment,(you may have to adjust the carburetor high or low jet screws) to achieve normal running condition. Rinse and squeeze it various times to get out all the remaining water and soap in the pores. You may have to keep the throttle open a bit. It ran like hot garbage at the start and blew a lot of … It was the cap for me and wasn't getting the full power and oil leaked so I replaced the carb for $15 Amazon and cap, runs like new. Additional Literature In addition to finding information online, information is available from your Authorized Shindaiwa Service Dealer, or by contacting ECHO Inc., 400 Oakwood Road, Lake Zurich, IL 60047 (1-800-432-ECHO (3246)). My ECHO SRM-225 starts on cold setting but dies out soon after, sometimes one to three minutes, sometimes just a few seconds. The recoil starter assembly engages the crankshaft to turn over the engine. need replaced/ rebuild and clean carb. That thing is a beast! Working. I have been using TRuFuel 50:1 with no problems for months until now. elgitano, 4 common things are gas cap venting plugged(loosen cap to see if it runs better). RY08548 leaf blower / vac Hard to start, dies when you throttle up, won't restart. Feb 18, 2008. Billy. to the engine ,mine had gotten loose and was letting too much air in causing hard starting when warm. Hold the start trigger down until the engine is running smoothly. Posted by 3 years ago. If the recoil pulley is broken or stuck, it won't be able to rewind the starter rope. Let me know if this doesn't make sense. Still a no go. Your hedge trimmer has a switch that turns off the flow of power in the ignition coil to stop the engine from running. pulled the spark plug and was black. cleaned it, popped it in and voila! It hadn't run in a few years, and I got it running. I've actually watched all 4 of these videos today, but will review them to see if I may have missed something. Be aware that unburnt fuel of an Echo string trimmer could build up in the muffler and may produce smoke when the trimmer runs at half throttle. Have your ECHO dealer repair stop switch before using unit again. the hot start problem was why i did the muffler and the carb. Throttling always makes it bog down and stop. View Profile View Forum Posts New Member Join Date Oct 2008 Posts 1 Location SC had the exact same problem: idling like crap then when I pulled accelerator lever it would conk out almost every time. I don't know why my exhaust port was so oily and I thought too much fuel was getting through initially, but that was not the case. Got new gas, added Lucas semi synthetic 2 cycle oil. If there is no spark, this indicates that the spark plug is defective and should be replaced. Worked like a charm, though it took me a minute to determine the type of screwdriver needed. The hose itself, when hot, can also lose its proper seal to the carburetor, restricting the flow. I've messed with a million and 1 of these echo 225’s and it's just out of set. Terms — Common solutions for: Echo String trimmer won't start. Fully press and release the primer bulb 10 times, then try starting again. Common reasons an ECHO weed eater won’t start: Poor Quality Fuel; Fouled Spark Plug; Clogged Fuel Filter; Clogged Carburator; … pull and clean your spark plug with some carb cleaner and a wire brush. If the porcelain insulator is cracked, an electrode is burned away or damaged, or there is heavy carbon buildup at the electrode, replace the spark plug. Lakeside53. This sticky fuel can clog up the carburetor and prevent the engine from starting. My ECHO SRM-225 starts on cold setting but dies out soon after, sometimes one to three minutes, sometimes just a few seconds. SHOP PARTS Hold times are long. This spring I bought some new gas and added 10 yr old Castrol Super Oil. Try to start the chainsaw after priming the carburetor. When you pull the starter rope, tabs extending from the pulley and cam should grab the hub on the engine, causing the engine to turn. It should perform with little or no visible smoke coming from the exhaust. Once cleaned, you can soak the filter in lukewarm water. The Echo would only idle and would die with any throttle. Then I removed the gas filter, same problem. To check operation of the switch, remove the cover on the engine and locate the ignition module. I had to grind down a screwdriver to fit in to adjust the carburetor turned it to the right and has no bogging down and lots of power. thanks to you guys! Throttling always makes it bog down and stop. Keep in mind, though, a two stroke has a lot of compression and the jerky pull cord you have may be normal and the hard … © 2021 iFixit — Licensed under Creative Commons — Privacy — Your answers are anything but vague. Adjusted the carb. I hope this helped you out, if so let me know by pressing the helpful button. 2. Disconnect the 2 smaller wires to check switch operation. Amaxwell Reply With Quote. Clean the air filter with warm water and dish soap. A clogged carburetor is most commonly caused by leaving fuel in the string trimmer for a long period of time. But the tools most likely to have the problem are the two string trimmers. I had a corded trimmer for so long, and this ECHO is a relatively recent addition. I own my own lawn service. Easy fix - YouTube I appreciate the quick reply L Pfaff. Tried new fuel, new spark plug, new carb last year when it did same thing. To do this, use an ohmmeter and turn the switch off and on. The Echo is now running smoothly. Thank you so much! If the rewind spring is broken, replace it. I did try a new one with no success, but this last link you sent gives me hope! between you and ECHO if we find it necessary to contact you. Problems with the fuel or ignition system can cause an Echo string trimmer to not start properly. Echo handheld blower won’t start when warm. I had the same issue, oily exhaust port and bog down/stall on acceleration. Tried priming, not priming etc. One twist of the screw to the rigjt and Vroooom! Echo and stihl are the only trimmers I will buy. Since you have the carb off (but you can still do this with it on)move the piston to top dead center and stand the trimmer with the carb port down for a few minutes. Justin Leifker. Don't use gasoline containing ethanol, it plugs carburetor jets. The rewind spring might be broken. If the rewind spring is broken, the rope won’t be able to recoil onto the pulley. There is a wide range of complementary Accessories and Parts available for your string trimmer. The truth is, all brands of trimmers are prone to not start at some point. If you cannot see the exhaust, it is not being lubricated. SRM-210/SERIAL: S65311001001-S65311999999, SRM-210/SERIAL: S72812001001-S72812999999, SRM-210/SERIAL: S80313001001-S80313999999, SRM-210I/SERIAL: S65411001001-S65411999999, SRM-210I/SERIAL: S72912001001-S72912999999, SRM-210SB/SERIAL: S65511001001-S65511999999, SRM-210SB/SERIAL: S73012001001-S73012999999, SRM-210SB/SERIAL: S80513001001-S80513999999, SRM-210U/SERIAL: S67111001001-S67111999999, SRM-210U/SERIAL: S74612001001-S74612999999, SRM-210U/SERIAL: S82113001001-S82113999999, SRM-225/SERIAL: S04011001001-S04011999999, SRM-225/SERIAL: S89312001001-S89312999999, SRM-225/SERIAL: S89413001001-S89413999999, SRM-225/SERIAL: S94726001001-S94726999999. The Echo trimmer at this point is a life saver, as the first thing you are going to do is start trimming all around the edges of the yard. I sprayed the jets but the clog must have been in the fuel line. 5. The key is to work through the most common causes in a systemic way to find the issue. All in all, in my limited garden power tools experience, I like the ECHO trimmer despite the current troubles. The problem is the thing refuses to start after you shut it off hot. Just because it looks clean, doesn't mean it is. Check the attached links,instruction and guides, Good luck. I have one question concerning the high and low jets- honestly, I don't know where they are on this SRM-225. Did you prime the engine? Is the fuel in your tank stale, or improperly mixed? I disassembled carb.. cleaned, (I thought). The … These passages are so incredibly small, it's impossible to tell by looking if they are clean or not. Thanks for your guidance. I drained the tank and put in the new gas / Seafoam mix. @mrjimphelps. It's 110% the hidden fuel mixture screw. … Mower immediately started running like new and it still is running like new a year later. 2. Already ordered? This isn’t an issue with ECHO. Archived. I know this sounds a bit vague, but just take the carb completely apart and spray the cleaner into every hole / passage. If the recoil starter pulley is broken, replace it. Carburetors on these things are notoriously finicky. Echo Zama Carburetor hidden Hi jet screw, link below. Feb 18, 2008. Trimmer: Won't Start . Empty the tank and refill with fresh fuel, mixed with the right gas-to-oil … My woeful tale turned to glee and relief, Thanks for your time. As a result, the engine won’t start. Sometimes this needs to be repeated several times to get it completely cleaned out. Shipping all 7 days! The recoil starter pulley winds up the starter rope when the rope is not in use. I checked the plug, not dirty at all. Trimmers Introduction Video SRM-2620 25.4 cc ECHO X Series Trimmer with Speed-Feed® 400 Head. @estepario. The one thing I do notice is an accumulation of grease/oil near the exhaust. The other 58V Echo tools, such as the leaf blower, hedge trimmer, and chain saw, use the same battery system. Click on Shop Parts, or select the kind of product you're working with on the left and we'll help you find the right part. Dumped it all. We carry more than 4 million parts from over 175 major brands, so chances are, we've got the part you need. Start doing it yourself with the confidence that comes with 100+ years of experience. Garage sale Echo trimmer will not start. I had also tried to run it with the fuel cap loosened with no luck. I left fuel filter off. Lakeside53 Stihl Wrenching. If the recoil starter assembly is defective, the engine won't start. I did not make any adjustments to the carburetor. When you release the rope, the tabs should retract and the rope should rewind back on the pulley. I have been using TRuFuel 50:1 with no problems for months until now.I checked … ... making it hard to deliver the required fuel. It's unlikely the diaphragm needs to be replaced, but it is likely that one of the tiny little passages is clogged. ... Start the engine and let it warm up for 5 minutes to bring the engine up to operating temperature. We've got millions of parts, hundreds of brands, and thousands of step-by-step videos— everything you need to find it, fix it and finish the job right. Thank you! Feb 18, 2008 #12 Hmmm.. you mightewant to have talk with that "dealer".. scotclayshooter. I just checked the spark arrestor screen, and it was clean. 4th If none of the above seem to help chances are the diaphragms in carb. Now she is running without bogging down and idling okay. Most of the above comments were made by folks who had never really experienced this problem and were offering, good and heartfelt answers, but they were wrong answers. The two-cycle engine that runs your string trimmer needs three things to operate smoothly: clean fuel, air circulation and a spark. I have replaced the plug, removed and cleaned the carb. Joined Dec 25, 2004 Messages 24,802 Location Woodinville, WA. The carburetor might be clogged. It is best to run the trimmer … Use a can of spray carb cleaner to make sure all the passages are clean. Oil deposits and carbon can foul the spark plug … Join Repair Clinic's VIP email list for 10% off, plus other discounts and tips! Over time, some of the ingredients in the fuel may evaporate, leaving behind a thicker, stickier substance. Gas that is more than 30 days old, lower than 89 octane, or contaminated with water may not provide enough spark to ignite the engine. Clean or replace the spark plug. 01 - Spark Plug. At certain times when the engine gets hot, the flow of fuel to the carburetor can get restricted. Then, I replaced the fuel lines and gas filter, including the primer bulb. lots of smoke for a bit, but running like a champ. The only thing we had to replace was a gas line. Then choke to normal, it will run for a second then die. 2nd spark arrester screen plugged, remove and clean the muffler and screen and check exhaust port for carbon accumulation, scrape port clean while holding with port position down or use vacuum so debri will not fall in cylinder when cleaning(carbon debri could harm cylinder walls and rings). To determine if the spark plug is defective, use a spark … You can't go wrong with stihl or echo! Having trouble getting your gas string trimmer started? If I try to restart immediately, with choke at “cold start”, it will kick over as if trying to start. elgitano, did you try a new spark plug in case it is fouled. We are missing the most important pieces of info; sound & smell. I tried taking out the spark plug and there was a ton of fuel in the cylinder. If cleaning the carburetor isn’t effective, rebuild or replace the entire carburetor. Runs perfectly for 10-15 minutes then dies as if it is starving for gas. If the porcelain insulator is cracked, an electrode is burned away or damaged, or there is heavy carbon buildup at the electrode, replace the spark plug. Why Sanders celebrated short catch during rout. I've done this many times with the mower carb but had never really piddled with gas trimmer engines before. I recently replaced fuel line and filter (Echo 90097 kit) and still, no better. Remove the starter assembly and inspect it to determine if it is working properly. If that doesn't work, move the choke lever to half choke and pull the starter rope, 6 times maximum, to start the engine. Also, if the grass is too long, you will have to even trim the whole yard before mowing. My lawn mower was doing this. You are a life saver! elgitano Accessibility. Activate the choke by moving the lever to the full choke position and pull the starter rope 3 or 4 times to start the engine. Slowly turn in the low speed jet, until it starts to die, then back it out another 1/4 to 1/2 turn. Add more oil. 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